thrones of the non-porcelain variety

[guingel]

Dudes, let's move to Vermont!

Not only has their legislature legalized gay marriage, look at that picture! Are those the chairs in the gallery at the state legislature? I can only assume they are. THEY HAVE THRONES. I have been a guest and NY City Council votes and stuff, they have folding chairs. I would be all "ooh, Vermont legislature is voting on changing regulations for desposing of sewage. I MUST BE AT THE VOTE" and then the vote would be over and the custodians would be all "Lady, we need to clean up" and I would be like "MY THRONE". (Have I been reading too many local news stories?) (Speaking of, um, homosexuality, I still adore this icon. I hope it never gets old.)

Btw, the religious anti-gay marriage contingent should be invoking the Church, not the Bible (I guess this is trickier for protestants). It's just as irrelevant to your opponents, but far more accurate and difficult to refute (in the "shellfish are an abomination too" sense, not the "church and state are separate" sense). [While I have your attention, I might note that legalizing gay marriage will not make people who weren't gay turn gay and will not make straight people stop reproducing. Gay people aren't going to turn straight and have little straight babies just because they can't marry each other, either. Also, leave dogs out of this. The key words are "consenting adults."]

Liberals, I see where you're coming from and why your dander is up, but calling Christianity a mythology isn't that helpful, and calling it fairy tales is just super-unproductive. They know you don't believe in it. Also, give NASCAR a break.

Also, liberals, once they switch to the Church argument, let's talk about divorce - forbidden by the Catholic Church, allowed by the government. Sounds okay to me.

I neeeeeeeeeed to do laundry tonight. I can confess this to y'all because you probably won't see what I'm wearing tomorrow and won't be able to judge whether it reflects laundry-doing virtue or, well, wearing dirty clothes. I have a clean shirt somewhere, I'm almost positive. >.>

I was writing some notes in mirror-writing at a meeting this morning but it was a very small table and the person across from me interrupted someone else by saying "Whoa!" loudly and everyone looked over and I was like "Um. I'm. . . writing in mirror writing?" XD And they were all "whoa!" and I felt self-conscious. But pleased? Except it's easy for me so it's not much of an accomplishment (second time I've gotten positive comments on my mirror-writing ability recently, though). If I could just switch to using the mouse with my left hand. . .

I'm going to eat lunch now. I need to get back on the schtick with making myself lunch. XP Sometimes I have leftovers, though, and sometimes dad takes me to lunch and sometimes I have leftovers from that. . . Yay, dad!

Note to self: look up Jose Adames on youtube later.

Comments

hey- i'm not sure I'm understanding your "political" section of this post

[snortney08.livejournal.com]

Could you expand more on your "shellfish" v "church/state" part...also why are there no warm-weather gay marriage states! is this a coincidence...when will hawaii allow it...i mean- can you say $$$? why do the warm climates get the staunch replublicans...at least california has some liberals :)

Re: hey- i'm not sure I'm understanding your "political" section of this post

[guingel.livejournal.com]

Well, a lot of people who are anti-gay marriage say they know homosexuality is morally wrong because the Bible is against it. But then their opponents always say "well, the bible also says shellfish is an abomination," and pulls out all these examples of how you just can't randomly start taking the Bible literally. The real religious authority on morally acceptable behavior is the church. Especially the Catholic Church, but even in Protestantism, there have been people interpreting the Bible and telling people which parts to take literally and which not to. And in Catholicism, the Church really is the authority - and they're saying gay marriage is a no, and opponents can't say "pssht, the Church also says shellfish is an abomination or that you can't wear synthetic fabrics" cos it doesn't. I think.

It doesn't at all change the real point - they have to accept that the Church is not a secular authority and that marriage IS a secular institution, with government-granted rights. People get distracted with the Bible thing and whether they believe in God or not, but the real point is that what the Bible or the Church says should not have any effect on who the government does or does not give rights to.

However, what I would say that should be based on is a basic understanding of human rights - which may not actually be universal and may be based on a Christian morality in the US. Even then, though, I would say it's just a base and that it's been tempered by logic and modernity in the case of people who aren't committed to traditional religious interpretations (which is not all religious people).

My theory on the warm-weather states is that in hot places people get grumpy and don't like to extend civil rights?