On empathy and privilege
Jan. 14th, 2010 02:40 pmThe last couple days, I'm turning my focus towards "How can feminism reach and more effectively communicate with those who don't outwardly associate themselves with the feminist movement, especially men." I don't think this should become a goal of the movement as a whole, for reasons which I might get into. But I like to mix a little practicality with my idealism and I'm willing to compromise in the service of more effective communication so other people don't have to.
[Side note, I cannot promise that this rant will be even as coherent as my masculinity rant. I'm jumping back and forth to different paragraphs and adding stuff.]
Today I'm thinking about privilege. Oh,
wtf_sexism. Reading about racism is so much easier because I get to feel productive while I do it. When I read about sexism I think the results are that I might be able to step in and try to educate if I see someone being stupid, I might learn better ways to do that in the future, and. . . I make myself angry? I mean, it is good to be seeing the way sexism functions so I can, again, better educate. I mean, all those also happen when I read about racism but I also feel more like I'm learning to better correct my own behavior and understand the perspectives of others.
Anyway. I have this thought about when you're in a discussion of some sort of privilege/inequality in which you are the privileged person, and someone says something you don't agree with. And you say "Pssht, I don't have that privilege," or "I don't think that's actually about racism," or whatever. It seems like the only way to actually process what's being said is to try to work from the assumption that it is accurate. Like, just temporarily pretend that you completely accept it as truth. And then critique it from the inside. And then you can go back to critiquing it from the outside. You don't have to actually accept it as truth, you just have to pretend it's true while you think about it.
Because, I don't know, it's like the only way you can understand why someone might say something like that? So it's the only way you can actually evaluate the statement, in the reality of that person's life. In your life it might not seem to be accurate, but your life is only one small slice of the world as a whole.
Basically, entertaining the possibilities that ideas we don't agree with are true is the only way to expand your mind in any way, I guess.
I'm looking at some discussions of privilege right now and a lot of people basically go into these discussions flat out thinking "Privilege does not exist, I have no systematic advantages over any other people." And then when they're shown those advantages, they just sort of reject that they could possibly be caused by privilege, because privilege does not exist.
( self reflection )
Speaking of default positions, male perspectives! In addition to an unwillingness to recognize and take responsibility for one's own privilege, (side note, I saw someone yesterday who, when told that men had more privilege and therefore needed to take responsibility for it, seemed to be interpreting that as "Men need to take responsibility for more aspects of life than women do and also need to take responsibility for women's actions." Dude, not what was being said.) I think a lack of empathy is a HUGE problem - in gender relationships, race relationships, and general human relationships. You can really see this in discussions of rape (I was involved in one yesterday). Some men just don't understand what it is to have to be thinking about this, to feel vulnerable to it. They can't really imagine what it would be like, it seems. It's weird. Cos I've never been raped, and haven't really been in situations where I felt seriously threatened by an individual who I thought might assault me. But I can still imagine how horrible it would be and would never make light of it, or compare it to mugging, or COMPARE IT TO CUCKOLDRY. . . and now I lost my calmness. ::deep breaths::
Male anti-feminists tend to minimize rape, and try to assert that it is not a gendered problem. This (and a HIGHLY questionable study, not that rape is a complicated issue that you would have to have a full understanding of before you were able to analyze it in a serious academic way) is what leads to people thinking that false rape accusations are as big a problem, if not bigger, than rape. (I also notice that I have never seen anyone say "if that guy didn't want to be falsely accused of rape, he shouldn't have slept with someone he couldn't trust." Women choose to end up single mothers and make poor decisions that lead to them being raped, but men are always absolute innocent victims who aren't responsible for anything that happens to them. This assertion wouldn't bother me so much if the people who believed it weren't constantly accusing feminists of preventing women from taking responsibility for their actions. CHARMING.)
( on a fairly sane critic of feminism and his lack of empathy )
OK, I have an entire other post that I'm writing that goes into where that lack of empathy comes from, and also explores the idea that feminism should not be female-focused because both genders experience sexism and other gender-based problems.
[Side note, I cannot promise that this rant will be even as coherent as my masculinity rant. I'm jumping back and forth to different paragraphs and adding stuff.]
Today I'm thinking about privilege. Oh,
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Anyway. I have this thought about when you're in a discussion of some sort of privilege/inequality in which you are the privileged person, and someone says something you don't agree with. And you say "Pssht, I don't have that privilege," or "I don't think that's actually about racism," or whatever. It seems like the only way to actually process what's being said is to try to work from the assumption that it is accurate. Like, just temporarily pretend that you completely accept it as truth. And then critique it from the inside. And then you can go back to critiquing it from the outside. You don't have to actually accept it as truth, you just have to pretend it's true while you think about it.
Because, I don't know, it's like the only way you can understand why someone might say something like that? So it's the only way you can actually evaluate the statement, in the reality of that person's life. In your life it might not seem to be accurate, but your life is only one small slice of the world as a whole.
Basically, entertaining the possibilities that ideas we don't agree with are true is the only way to expand your mind in any way, I guess.
I'm looking at some discussions of privilege right now and a lot of people basically go into these discussions flat out thinking "Privilege does not exist, I have no systematic advantages over any other people." And then when they're shown those advantages, they just sort of reject that they could possibly be caused by privilege, because privilege does not exist.
( self reflection )
Speaking of default positions, male perspectives! In addition to an unwillingness to recognize and take responsibility for one's own privilege, (side note, I saw someone yesterday who, when told that men had more privilege and therefore needed to take responsibility for it, seemed to be interpreting that as "Men need to take responsibility for more aspects of life than women do and also need to take responsibility for women's actions." Dude, not what was being said.) I think a lack of empathy is a HUGE problem - in gender relationships, race relationships, and general human relationships. You can really see this in discussions of rape (I was involved in one yesterday). Some men just don't understand what it is to have to be thinking about this, to feel vulnerable to it. They can't really imagine what it would be like, it seems. It's weird. Cos I've never been raped, and haven't really been in situations where I felt seriously threatened by an individual who I thought might assault me. But I can still imagine how horrible it would be and would never make light of it, or compare it to mugging, or COMPARE IT TO CUCKOLDRY. . . and now I lost my calmness. ::deep breaths::
Male anti-feminists tend to minimize rape, and try to assert that it is not a gendered problem. This (and a HIGHLY questionable study, not that rape is a complicated issue that you would have to have a full understanding of before you were able to analyze it in a serious academic way) is what leads to people thinking that false rape accusations are as big a problem, if not bigger, than rape. (I also notice that I have never seen anyone say "if that guy didn't want to be falsely accused of rape, he shouldn't have slept with someone he couldn't trust." Women choose to end up single mothers and make poor decisions that lead to them being raped, but men are always absolute innocent victims who aren't responsible for anything that happens to them. This assertion wouldn't bother me so much if the people who believed it weren't constantly accusing feminists of preventing women from taking responsibility for their actions. CHARMING.)
( on a fairly sane critic of feminism and his lack of empathy )
OK, I have an entire other post that I'm writing that goes into where that lack of empathy comes from, and also explores the idea that feminism should not be female-focused because both genders experience sexism and other gender-based problems.